Schedule Update History (Started from Crush's/Big Drop's Initial Schedule)

• 2/20/2010: Include results from HCC Schedule Meeting and Schedule reconciliation.
• 2/26/2010: Fix Film Festival Location = Frankfort, KY
• 2/28/2010: Add WW Warehouse Boat Demo Info.
• 3/04/2010: Fix typos.
• 3/14/2010: Indicate that April Clear Creek trip is II-III not just II.
• 3/29/2010: Indicate Corrected Date for Boater Chick Fest (May 21-23)
• 4/09/2010: Cancel M.A.C.K Fest per One Shoe Jabu - No Water.
• 4/21/2010: Cancel Clear Creek Trip - No water.
• 5/ 3/2010: Cancel 7/8-9 Trip to NOC.
• 6/13/2010: Upstate NY Trip Addition
• 7/5/2010 Add 8/29 Mojo Rolling Clinic.

This schedule is a living things and will be updated throughout the year. Please send trip comments or additions to Suzi Rapp and send corrections to Jim Sprandel. In order to make it easier to track changes, I will keep a change history at the very top of this file. Or, post your comments as replies to this BB thread.

Note: Non-HCC events shown in Italics.

Fri.-Sat. Feb. 26-27, 2010 National Paddling Film Festival, Frankfort, KY (See February Newsletter)

Sat.-Sun. Feb. 27-28, 2010 Big South Paddle, Oneida, TN (See February Newsletter)
Sponsor: Jordan Ross

March 27, 2010 4-7 pm - Saturday Whitewater Warehouse Boat Demo (See Bulletin Board ), Thatcher Pool, Indianapolis, IN
Jordan Ross

Sat. March 27 – Sun. April 4, 2010 Week of River - Tennessee Rivers
This will be an all week trip of rivers in the Tennessee, North Carolina, Kentucky area which will include Clear, Daddy’s, Nolichucky, Tellico, Ocoee, Watuga, Doe, Rockcastle, etc., whatever is running and how many we can get to in a weeks time.
Sponsors: Randy Parker, Bob Heckler

Sat.-Sun. April 10-11, 2010 – Webster’s Spring Wildwater Festival, Class II-IV, Webster, WV
Sponsor: Jordan Ross

Canceled Fri.-Sun. April 16-18, 2010 – M.A.C.K. Fest, Marmora , Canada
((Festival canceled per (One Shoe Jabu ), Crush confirmed they're not going.))
Big Drop has a gig there Saturday night, going to try and do two rivers both Friday and Saturday, new ones we have never done before, meeting up with One Shoe Jabu, Jari, and Cale Reeder.
Note: You don't have to have a passport to leave the US, but you will require one to re-ENTER the US, so please keep this in mind when planning for this trip!!! If you don't have a passport, you may want to start want to start applying soon in order to receive it in time for the trip!
Sponsors: Randy Parker, Bob Heckler

Sat. April 17, 2010 Elkhhorn Beginner's Icebreaker,Class II, Frankfort, KY
Sponsor: Rob Friedman

Canceled Fri.-Sun. April 23-25, 2010 Class II-III, Clear Creek, Wartburg, TN
Sponsor: Dan Valleskey

Fri.-Sun. April 30–May 2, 2010 Cheat Fest, Albright, WV
Sponsors: Jordan Ross, Sharon Schierling

Fri.-Sun. May 14 – 16, 2010 Ridge Fest, Bryson City, NC
Staying at Brian Aubin’s, Big Drop playing there for Crush’s 55th Birthday Party!
Sponsor: -

Fri.-Sun. May 14-16, 2010 Class II Trip on Nantahala
Sponsor: Barry Welling

Fri.-Sun. May 21-23, 2010 Boater Chick Fest - Ocoee and Cheoah (TN)
Sponsors: (Pending)

Sat.-Mon. May 29-31, 2010 Wisconsin Memorial Day Trip (II-IV)
Wolf, Red, Pestigo and Menominee
Sponsor: Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. June 12-13,2010 East Race Opening Week-End

Canceled Fri.-Sun. July 9-11, 2010 Nantahala Outdoor Center
Joint Flatwater, Whitewater, Touring Kayak Trip

Fri.-Sat. July 9-17, 2010 Maine Rivers Trip
Kennebec, Dead, Penobscot
Sponsor: Bob Heckler, Randy Parker

Sat.-Tue. July 17-20, 2010 Bear Paw Women's WW Clinic (Wolf River, WI)
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Sat.-Sun. July 24-25, 2010 New River, WV (III-IV)
Sponsor: Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. July 31-Aug. 1, 2010 Hiwassee (II) & Ocoee (III+)
Sponsor: Sharon Schierling, Jordan Ross

Fri.-Sun. August 6-8, 2010 Yough Fest, Upper (IV-V) and Lower (III) Yough, PA
Sponsors: Sharon Schierling, Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. Aug. 14-15, 2010 (East Race Safety Weekend rescheduled to 8/28-29)

Sat.-Sun. Aug. 21-22, 2010 Over the Falls Fest Lower Yough, PA
Sponsor: Matt Slagel

Sat.-Sun. Aug. 28-29, 2010 East Race (ERWWCK) Safety Weekend
Sponsors: Jason Tharp, Jordan Ross, Sharon Schierling

Sun. August 29, 2010 Mojo Rolling Clinic
Debby Baker

Sat.-Mon. Sept 4-6, 2010 New River (WV)
Joint HCC Flatwater, Whitewater, Touring Kayak event.
Sponsor: Dan Steely

Also Labor Day Weekend (Sept 4-6, 2010)
Upstate New York WW
Sponsor: Randy Parker

Sat.-Sun. Sept. 11-12, 2010 Gauley First Release, WV (III-V)
Sponsors: Sharon Schierling, Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. Sept. 17-19,2010 Gauley Fest - Gauley River, WV, (III-V)
Sponsors: Randy Parker, Bob Heckler

Sat.-Sun. Oct. 2-3, 2010 Gauley Fall Colors, Gauley River, WV, (III-V)
Sponnsor: Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. Oct. 16-17, 2010 Bridge Day (New River Gorge)/Gauley Last Release
Sponsor: Jordan Ross

Sat.-Sun. October 30–31, 2010 Ocoee Halloween Paddle - Ocoee River, Ocoee , TN
Big Drop is working on getting the Grim Reaper and the skulls going again!!
Sponsors: Randy Parker, Bob Heckler

Fri.-Mon. November 5–8, 2010 Tohicken Creek, Allentown , Pa.
Will plan this weekend trip as it gets closer.
Sponsors: Randy Parker

This is an e-mail I sent Dan V a few months ago and his response:

Dan,

This past and last year over Labor Day, I attended a New River Rendezvous near Fayetteville, WV. This rendezvous includes several paddling groups, though most from the East Coast. They range from newbies, to intermediate to a large group of excellent paddlers. Open boats, hard boats, several Shredders, rafts and even a couple of duckies were paddled. Really good paddlers bringing family along often could get a lesser- or non-experienced family member into a larger raft so they can enjoy the river together. Every effort is made to accommodate everyone's skills/prefs. This year, for example, I Shredded the Gorge on Friday and Sunday, and paddled my Torrent SOT on the Thurmond to Cunnard section on Saturday. I had a different Shredder partner each time (and I don't own a Shredder). The trip leader, Mike Sawyer, is also a near pro photographer with the equipment to match, and likes to go ahead in the group to catch everyone's photos through some of the rapids. His hosting site allows free downloads for anyone that wants theirs. Here's this year's crop:

http://mikesawyer.smugmug.com/Portf...0/9557235_QTBQb
(And, Yes, that's me swimming Surprise in the green Torrent, lol)

If you want to see a small sample of the guy's WW experience, check out this page: http://mikesawyer.smugmug.com/Outdoor-Sports/Whitewater

Every day there were options to do one of the two upper, easier sections of the New River, or the Gorge. The Gorge is most popular, of course. Last year, however, the levels were a bit higher and many more took advantage of the "lighter" sections. Shuttles are loosely organized but always effective and efficient enough.

They camp at Ray's campground, which is a wonderful, quiet and clean campground run by, you guessed it, Ray and his wife. They're on site most of the time and great people. They really care about their customers and won't tolerate anyone causing trouble, which is nice for everyone else. Camping is $8/person/night. Cabins are also available (bunk houses only, no baths) for an additional $30/cabin/night (on top of the $8/person). Shower house is nice, well kept.

http://rayscampground.com/

Ok, now for why in the world I'm giving you all of these details. We need to have it on our schedule next year. I've been asked by the trip leader who invited me for the first time last year, and someone I now consider a good friend, to get the HCC involved and coming. "The more the merrier" is the idea. There were probably 100+ people camping/paddling this year, probably more like 150 last year. It's also a great family get away for Labor Day because non-paddling family have so many other options, rafting, hiking, biking, sight-seeing, great restaurants in the area, etc.

So, what'dya think?

Dan's response (edited for brevity):
Absolutely, Dan, I'd love to see that on our schedule. I had in mind a trip sort of like that for the HCC, I was about to lead it myself this year, over Labor Day, but than, the reality of two other big events (Pirate paddle, and the Hoosier Outdoor Experience) so close after Labor Day sort of put me off the idea of leading it myself.

I was looking at the Nantahala area, but the New would also be great. I would like to see this event slanted (marketed?) toward the flatwater people as well as the whitewater bunch. We need events that bring everyone together, and what you described could sure do that. You know, we have a few rafts in the club, and Doug T. has a shredder (Kokomo-), and of course, we could always jump in boats, maybe rent something.

Hey Dan,

The trips schedule posted thus far is just a very rough draft and only contains what Crush and Bigg Drop have submitted (I only cut & pasted early this morning). The Labor Day trip to the New River Gorge area sounds like fun and we will place that on the schedule as well. Crush and Bigg Drop may still opt to hold a Class IV-V trip elsewhere that weekend though since the Gauley won't be releasing yet and the Class IV-V creeks/rivers in WV are rain dependent if they aren't hydro-regulated. Thanks for posting the information on this weekend! I think it will be positive to try to integrate the flatwater and the whitewater groups together. Maybe we should make more of an effort to try this for the Memorial Day trip too???

For anyone else who is wanting to lead a whitewater trip in 2010, I believe the HCC Trips planning meeting is scheduled for January 24th. Please see the newsletter for details. We especially need more volunteers to lead beginners to Class II-III trips..... HINT HINT!!!

Suzi

Dear Friends,
Since I do not know yet where my life will lead, due to being unemployed, I am hesitant to commit to leading any trips. However, I will be going to the Ocoee, still my favorite river, on my birthday weekend. So, I will be leading a trip on the Ocoee on June 26-27 for all of those who would like to join.

Also, wanted to say that during the paddling season I tend to paddle somewhere every other week. So, if I am still in the area this year, watch the board for trips as I wil likely plan a trip a week in advance.

-Monica

Suzi -- I will lead a beginner trip to the Elkhorn in mid-April (the 17th or weekend before, not sure yet but I'll firm it up) -- as always, not for first-timers but everyone with some moving water skills welcome.

Not to start a debate, but if the Elkhorn isn't for first timers, what is, at least as far as WW goes?


YoS

Beginners should start on moving water, maybe Class I. Just to get a feel for how the water affects their boats and to develop skills entering and exiting eddies. Once those skills are developed, the Flatrock at a reasonable level or the Big Pine below a foot are good.

Not having basic skills for handling a boat in moving water is not a good thing above a low head dam. My one time down the Elkhorn was at pretty low levels and I wouldn't take a first timer on it.

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YoS -- Beginner trips are among the hardest to lead, given the varying abilities of newbies. Some people make it up to the Gauley their first year, but they are exceptions. Some first-timers would be fine on the Elkhorn, but it's Class II, and most people will get more out of it if they have some experience in moving water -- like the Flatrock. Last year, we had 25 on the Elkhorn. If they were first-timers it would be a long day. And two years ago, someone who had some moving water experience but wasn't confident paddled into a strainer on one of the easier rapids on the Elkhorn. Flipped and went right under it. Fortunately, he flushed out and just swam. But I was reminded that people without experience can get hurt in Class II, so I prefer to be on the safe side.

I'd agree with you Rob... I think the most important thing I learned that first full year of mine was "boat control." I didn't know what all of that meant, but knowing that, was huge in my improvement. Can't wait for the weather to turn---had a good fall of paddling on the BP. Ed even got me to start with the surfing; I may have to get out and purchase one of them playboats in the future. Anways, I'd be more than happy to throw some help your way when the Elkhorn trip comes along.

I've updated the Schedule that Crush and Big Drop posted in December to reflect the HCC Trip Planning Meeting. While I've checked this against the schedule from the trip meeting, please send any corrections to editor@hoosiercanoeclub.org or let Suzi Rapp know at ww@hoosiercanoeclub.org.

JIm Sprandel

just an FYI at this point... the NPFF is in Frankfort KY ( as posted in the newsletter) NOT IN. still easy to get to, but not that easy

Thanks. Typo on my part. I've fixed in the schedule at the top of this thread. Jim

The East Race season is weekends, June 12 to August 8. I will be offering small group instruction to HCC members during the public season. Instruction would be for beginners who have at least begun to learn to roll. The small group sizes should allow one on one instruction at times so you can work on what you want or need to improve on. I plan on being at a majority of public days but there will be some that I will not be able to attend and have not figured that out yet.

Jason Tharp

Dan Valleskey indicated that his April 23-25 trip will include Class 2 and 3 sections of Clear Creek. The original schedule had indicated that it was only Class 2.

Just saw on Boater Talk that the date for Boater Chick Fest this year will be May 21-23, NOT May 8-9 as listed on our WW Trip Schedule.

This means that I cannot co-organize the trip since I will be in Africa then. I don't know whether Monica can do it then or not.

Sharon